The superfan fallacy: Key takeaways from our final webinar of 2024
On December 17, 2024, Water & Music hosted our final webinar of the year, in which we examined the uncomfortable truths behind music's "pivot to superfans."
Artists and executives alike are promoting superfandom as a potential saving grace, especially in a climate where streaming growth is slowing and content oversaturation is accelerating. But the reality is far more complicated than what most narratives suggest.
Nearly 200 members joined our webinar to hear from three leading voices — each of whom offered a distinct critical perspective on the emotional, legal, and technological challenges facing the industry's push toward superfan monetization:
- Monia Ali, writer of the newsletter Fandom Exile, on the hidden costs of stan culture
- Andy Blair of Reverb Data, exploring the legal realities of fan data control
- Hanna Kahlert from MIDiA Research, challenging assumptions about fan platform development
Below are the full webinar recording and slides, followed by key insights and case studies from our discussion. A curated reading list is included at the bottom for those wanting to dive deeper.
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The emotional cost of stan culture
Monia Ali, writer of the Fandom Exile newsletter, opened the webinar by challenging the industry's aggressive push toward superfandom monetization. Her analysis traced the evolution from "customer evangelists" at the turn of the 21st century to today's hyper-engaged superfan economy, revealing how industry incentives increasingly push artists toward cultivating emotionally charged — and potentially unhealthy — fan attachments,
The consequences of this shift are already visible across the music landscape. Ali highlighted several telling examples:
- Bruce Springsteen's trusted fan magazine Backstreets shuttering after 40 years over ticket pricing controversies.
- BTS fans filing legal complaints against HYBE for perceived failures in protecting band members.
- Blackpink fans staging truck protests outside agency buildings.
These incidents point to a crucial disconnect that the industry often overlooks: Fans develop loyalty not to the artist, but to their idealized concept of what that artist represents. When reality inevitably fails to match this manufactured ideal, the results can be volatile. As Ali put it simply, "Fandom is pro-social; standom is anti-social."
For artists and industry professionals navigating this landscape, Ali outlined several practical approaches for artists and their teams to build more sustainable fan relationships. Rather than chasing maximum monetization through VIP experiences and exclusive access, she suggested:
- Creating separate HQ accounts to provide buffer zones for fan interaction (e.g. for Olivia Rodrigo and Gracie Abrams).
- Developing gated communities and newsletters for more targeted communication (e.g. Weezer Fan Club, Miranda Lambert’s Ran Fans).
- Rethinking pricing models – e.g. implementing lottery systems for special experiences, rather than pure financial gatekeeping. (Importantly, lottery systems come with their own set of tradeoffs, such as new operational complexities around fairness and transparency in the selection process.)
The key, Ali emphasized, is patience: While cultivating intense fan attachment might drive short-term gains (like rapid ticket sales or merch purchases), building healthy, sustainable fan communities requires a longer-term perspective that prioritizes fan wellbeing over immediate monetization.
The legal reality of fan data
Andy Blair, Founder of Reverb Data and former Chief Privacy Officer at UMG, opened with his thesis that legal control of fan data will be the single biggest factor shaping the next phase of the music industry.
Blair’s presentation cut through common misconceptions about data rights — explaining that despite platform marketing claims about "owning your data," most artists have little to no actual “ownership” over their fan information. This is because privacy laws, not property rights, determine who can use fan data and how.
This disconnect between perception and legal reality manifests in several critical ways. For example:
- When artists want to transfer their data between platforms or services, they often face significant legal friction due to privacy law requirements. This challenge is increasingly urgent in the face of ongoing consolidation of independent music services companies, such as UMG’s acquisition of Downtown Music Holdings .
- With the rise in their in-house artist services divisions, labels often claim control over touring data, despite actually having minimal involvement in the ticketing process.
- Most tech platforms promising "data ownership" don't actually provide artists with legal control, If an artist's own privacy policy isn't on the data collection, Blair explained, it's not really theirs legally.
All of this points to a telling paradox: Artists today have more leverage and influence than ever in choosing their label partners and technology platforms, yet they have almost zero control over their fan data.
For artists, managers, and music tech founders, Blair outlined what he saw as several strategic imperatives for 2025 and beyond:
- First, artists need to critically examine their current data arrangements, looking beyond marketing promises to understand their actual legal rights. This means asking specific questions about privacy policies, data collection language, and who's dropping pixels on their sites.
- Second, artist teams should structure future deals with data control in mind – potentially requiring their own privacy notices and careful attention to data collection terms.
- Finally, Blair predicted an upcoming "correction" where platform-centric and label-centric data models may become obsolete as artists begin asserting more control. For music tech founders specifically, this suggests an opportunity to build truly artist-centric data models that give creators genuine legal control over their fan relationships.
The platform paradox in fan monetization
Hanna Kahlert, Analyst at MIDiA Research, challenged a core assumption driving many music tech startups — namely, that launching new standalone fan platforms is the solution to superfan monetization.
Drawing from MIDiA’s previous reports, Kahlert revealed that while fans are indeed willing to pay for exclusive experiences — with early access to music, tickets, and merchandise topping their wish lists — the fragmentation of investment across a growing number of platforms has created an unsustainable attention economy for both artists and fans.
This paradox becomes clear in MIDiA's platform engagement data: While established social networks like Facebook maintain weekly active use (WAU) above 60%, engagement drops precipitously for more niche platforms, with most struggling to break above 10% WAU.
The math becomes particularly challenging when considering fan behavior. Kahlert noted that the average listener follows hundreds of artists, with even top artists commanding only about 3% of their fans' listening time.
In this context, asking fans to adopt yet another platform — potentially with its own monthly subscription — for each of their favorite artists creates an impossible equation. The issue is compounded by social platforms' algorithms, which often reach only a small percentage of an artist's existing followers, making it harder to build momentum for new fan experiences.
For music tech founders and artists, Kahlert suggested several alternative approaches to building fan connections:
- Rather than creating new standalone platforms, she advocated for better integration with existing services where fans already gather. This could include developing targeted Discord communities, leveraging WhatsApp groups for more intimate fan connections, or creating curated experiences within established social platforms. (Companies like Laylo, iiNDYVERSE, and Levellr fall under this more integrative paradigm.)
- Kahlert also emphasized the growing value of offline experiences — citing MIDiA's Analogue Revival report, which shows increasing audience appetite for intentional, curated experiences over constant content streams.
The key, Kahlert argued, is not to solve fragmentation with even more fragmentation, but rather to thoughtfully use existing tools to create focused, meaningful fan communities.
Recommended readings
For deeper insights into these trends, below is a curated list of recommended resources, many of which feature or were authored by our speakers:
- Fandom Exile (Monia Ali’s newsletter)
- The state of the attention economy: why don’t fan-first platforms work? (Hanna Kahlert, MIDiA Research)
- Analogue revival: A cultural pendulum swing (Hanna Kahlert, MIDiA Research)
- Reverb Data: Getting Ahead in the Music Biz with Data (Andy Blair’s interview on the Music Tectonics podcast)
- Why artist subscriptions won’t save music (Cherie Hu, Water & Music)
- How fan-first marketing actually works (Cherie Hu + Maarten Walraven, Water & Music)
- The state of data in the music industry (Michael Zhang + Cherie Hu + Alexander Flores, Water & Music)
- Music In The Air 2024: Live, publishing and superfans boost Goldman Sachs' global growth forecast (Andre Paine, Music Week)
- Everyone Wants to Reach Superfans. It Won’t Be Easy (Elias Leight, Billboard)
- Universal’s direct-to-fan business has been growing at a whopping 33% rate (Daniel Tencer, MBW)
- Superfandom: How Our Obsessions are Changing What We Buy and Who We Are (Zoe Fraade-Blanar + Aaron M. Glazer)
- Playing to the Crowd: Musicians, Audiences, and the Intimate Work of Connection (Nancy K. Baym)
Thank you so much for your support, and happy holidays!
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